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Poster: Skippy61 Date: Jun 27, 2010 11:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Deadicated

Since I stirred the hornets nest of opinion on my last post,that was fun and informative, thanks for all your thoughts. I would like to do so again.

I have heard of but never listened to the 91 album Deadicated, until last week that is, 1st, do you like it? what is your fav track, or do you think it is a waste of both time and plastic? I will save my fav until later in the thread, no it's not cowardice, but I don't want to skew the results. Not a high opinion of my opinion just a thought that is all.

Peace:Skippy

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jun 28, 2010 4:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I do like this album and listen to it fairly often.
To me it highlights something that is often overlooked in regards to the GD. They were some damn fine song writers!!
I think this fact often gets lost in the mix of their jam / party band image.

I like the Bertha as done by Los Lobos and the J Straw by Hornsby, but I think my favorites are the 2 done by Suzanne Vega. I really like her voice, and I think the arraingements she does with Cassidy and China Doll both work very nicely!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I think I'd go for either Hornsby (Jack Straw) or Zevon and Lindley (Casey Jones) - both are excellent covers that I enjoy a lot. Overall it's a pretty enjoyable album, not at all a waste of time, though most people will probably want to pick out their favourite flavours.

I really don't think of it as a tribute to the Grateful Dead as such, more a tribute to the *songs* of the Grateful Dead, which is really something else altogether. It's a showcase for the strong body of work that lay at the heart of the Dead's repertoire and a demonstration that the songs deserve life beyond the band.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jun 28, 2010 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Check the liner notes but I remember something about Midnight Oil saying that their cover of wharf rat almost broke up the band.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I don't remember that really? I remember them not knowing anything about the band AT ALL. I think there's was my 2nd fav after Janes. Just thought it was nice to hear someone knew and fresh do some Dead instead of the boring singer/songwriter bland treatment that is the usual.

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Poster: snojon Date: Jun 28, 2010 5:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I never really thought this album was good. Perhaps I should go back and listen again. I thought the "Fire on the Mountain" reggae CD was so much better, especially the cover versions of Row Jimmy and catfish John

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

"I thought the "Fire on the Mountain" reggae CD was so much better,"

never heard that album...gonna hafta seek it out

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 3:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I do believe that it's out of print. However:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NFQPBBXG



I'm not the Messiah, I'm just a very naughty boy...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 30, 2010 4:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

really good "tribute" album....quite possibly better than Deadicated..much better than either of the "Pickin' on the Dead" discs

but WTF did they include Good Lovin"????

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 28, 2010 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Thanks Rob.

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Poster: Skippy61 Date: Jun 28, 2010 12:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

nice comments...my fav i think maybe the Indigo Girls and UJB. That having been said, i like Dwight and Truckin' as well. All in all, it's a great collection, I was hoping Lyle Lovette would have done FOTD, in the old speedier style, but that is quite tasty too. Gotta say I don't think there is a track I don't like on there.

Peace:Skippy

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Poster: buscameby Date: Jun 28, 2010 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I will guess that this will cause a few eyebrows to lift but I have to say one of my favorite tracks from that album is "Trukin" by Dwight Yokham.

I think he ROCKED the heck out of it! I was flippin channels one night and caught a version he did on CMT, the crowd LOVED it. The redneckers were blown back. I did have to laff when I saw their reaction the Vitaman C reference but the band was lovin it and Dwight seemed honored to be playin it.

I also thought the Midnite Oil version rocked and loved Suzanne Vegas "Cassidy"

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 27, 2010 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Ripple by Jane's Addiction where they give you both a bit of the other one and birdsong.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

absolutely BD! By FAR the best track and probably the only reason I want a copy. They should have asked the Dead Milkman and Sonic Youth to be on it. Two bands big into the Dead that you'd never know it from listening to them

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 28, 2010 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I like Deadicated very much and listen to it often. As for a favorite track, it is hard to say as I like most of them. I have to disagree with JA's Ripple though. IMHO it borders on abomination.

This post was modified by user unknown on 2010-06-28 16:29:13

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 28, 2010 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

are you SERIOUS? You'd rather hear a boring rote rendition? That and the midnight oil song were the only songs on there that brought anything fresh or new ( I do love how Los Lobos do the Dead live ). I couldn't disagree more. Apparently neither could Jerry as that was one of his favorite tracks too.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

"SERIOUS?" Yes, very.

"You'd rather hear a boring rote rendition?" Not necessarily.

But I'll personally take Dwight Yoakam's Truckin' or Lyle Lovett's FOTD over JA's Ripple any day. The 2 Suzanne Vega cuts are wonderfully done, as is the Los Lobos cut. As an alternative take on a Dead tune, I like Midnight Oil's Wharf Rat. I guess I really like the whole of Deadicated MINUS Jane's Addiction's Ripple. To me, it always seemed they were intentionally trashing one of my favorite GD tunes.


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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

guess we're all different. To me the Dead were always an underground band - one of the first true alternative bands. Just because they finally hit mega stardum that didnt change for me. I loved hearing a new at the time hip band take them on. I'm the exact opposite as you on this, Janes version is probably the ONLY reason I'd want that album. The rest of the covers would love to hear live if i was there but dont need to hear it on album, they dont add much of anything to the original at all. Just my opinion.

and yeah I love Dwight and thought he did a great take on that. I pretty much like all the artists that were on that album. Really thought it was great to hear Elvis was a big fan ( was even at one of those London 72 shows forget which )but always thought it was strange that Shop of Fools was his condition, HAD to be that song

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Hmmmm. Nobody mentioned the Estimated Prophet by Burning Spear which was my favorite from the album.

Around the same time KFOG and The GSW Warriors released a benefit album on which Cracker played a ripping Loser.

This album was the catalyst to the KFOG - Live from the Archives series. A fabulous collection of live performances from Bay Area venues and artists which benefit the Bay Area Food Banks.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 28, 2010 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Loser is on Cracker's "Kerosene Hat".

I also like Burning Spear's take on EP.

I wish/hope Dwight did a live version of Truckin' somewhere with Buck Owens.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 30, 2010 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Cracker doing "Loser" 12/27/07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenKPV3yyP0

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 28, 2010 6:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Indeed. Great album imo.

KFOG/Warriors Jam also had a live Birdsong by GD.

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Warriors_KFOG_Jam.htm

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Phil said that he started the Friends "as way to tap into the vast subculture of musicians who love and perform GD music as if it were a 'repertory' body of work, like Shakespeare or Beethoven."

The Dead at their best were always about finding new ways of doing things - they could be a pretty damn fine covers band themselves! There is no way that they'd discourage other people from reinterpreting their songs. I have no doubt that Phil and Jerry both would be just thrilled that other musicians were inspired to do their stuff - however the results differed from the originals.

"The concept of ever-changing musicians... has produced what I perceive as some very powerful and interesting interpretations of music we've all known for many years and these interpretations, in my opinion, in turn validate the concept."

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I've seen references to Garcia mentioning JA's Ripple as one of his favourite Dead covers, but damned if I can track down the original interview. Got any clues as to where it might be?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 28, 2010 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I recall a similar comment . I think it's in a RStone article - the last interview w/JG . '91 ish ? I believe some of the photos were of him alone ,in a field , playing an acoustic guitar - sepia tones . Wonder if A .Leibovitz took the photos


edit - man the 'Smith is quick . Bingo

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

So did you miss me while I was off carousing at Caligula's (note position of apostrophe), you young devil?

:-)


By the way, the pic you refer to, if I have the one you mean, of Garcia with guitar in a wheat(?) field, is by Mark Seliger. And, yes, I love that one too.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 28, 2010 12:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

From Screwtape ,

Yes , having to transport the human from CHOH to his dwelling must have taken a great deal of patience and a thorough scrubbing . That's why I gave you the direwolf to help . The human has not as of this nightfall turned to our Father Below . Time is running out Wormwood . The House of Correction for Incompetent Tempters awaits you . Make him sign . ( C.S.L )

Yes , the grammar . So correct . So right . Tiny order out of the swirling chaos .

It may be a wheat field . I love those photos - thanks for the attribution .

Losing DSL , like , sucks ;)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Excellent adaptive quoting, my friend. It doesn't surprise me that you're up to speed with Lewis, nor that you can bend him to your purpose.

As to your 'order out of chaos' grammatical observation, I suppose in many ways grammar is about imposing order on the chaos of everyday discourse, though we certainly need that chaos as a birthing ground for the new. I do, I'm afraid, impose tiny little bits of order now and then, but I am very fond of the chaos.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 28, 2010 2:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

The first time through I missed the corrective apostrophe on Caligula . I had to scan back to my post w/dire . Thank - you sir , for the shake to the left , so to speak . People can get very touchy about gentle corrective measures , but I love words and how they are used . Correct at will , rob . I have a feeling you might have had a syntax tutorial along the way . If so , could you give me a link , purely for Coliseum - type entertainment . CSL is a 20th century hero for me - I know shock - Thank- you for the compliment . Sean

edit - it was high flow and dire .

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

I do believe this is the first time (to my knowledge anyway) that you've signed yourself. Good to know you, Sean. In all honesty, I found it a challenge at first to get into your posts until I got to know your 'voice' - now I think you're a damn good guy to have around. It's a pleasure to have you on board the bus.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 28, 2010 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Thanks Rob.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

my guess is Rolling Stone or Relix, pretty much the only two mags that would have had any quote from Garcia before he died.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Best I can come up with:
http://members.cox.net/g12241/songs/ripple.html

Who wants a note by note replica? I want to see a band take it and make it their own. I happen to love what Janes did with the song and appreciate the "demographic" they exposed the song to. On a similar vein, saw Mary's Danish open for Primus open for Red Hot Chili Peppers and during the Peppers' set they had an equipment issue and they sang an acapella Friend of the Devil that went into Flea doing Anarchy in the UK. Was fuckin' GRATE.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 28, 2010 10:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Deadicated

Well hell I think I found it and it isn't much. October 31 1991 Rolling Stone interview (I'm doing this from the Garcia book so I can't give you a link):

James Henke: You mentioned Wharf Rat earlier. What do you think of the Midnight Oil version on the Deadicated album?
Jerry Garcia: I think it's terrific. That record is full of wonderful surprises.
JH: What other tracks do you like?
JG: I like Ripple by Jane's Addiction. And I really like Friend of the Devil by Lyle Lovett, Very tasty. And the Indigo Girls and Suzanne Vega I really like. And it was very flattering for me to have Elvis Costello, who I think is just a real dear guy and a serious music lover, do one of our songs.

And that's it!

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